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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:39 am    Post subject: Setting a price (when buying) Reply with quote

I'm generally offering the average price that I'm seeing at other sales. So if it's marked $3 at a sale, but I commonly see it sold for $1, I just offer a buck. Seems to work fine.

Last weekend I tried, 'How about xx$ for this pile?'. Before I could finish, seller offered a number lower than I expected.

What's your approach?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I must be losing my mind... didn't you have a much longer post about this topic?? It was gone before I could respond!!

Most of the time, I just use the "would you take $..... for this?" It usually works, but if it doesn't I put the item back, unless it's something really special. I generally always ask if they'll take lower, unless it's a really good price to start with.

I hate it when something isn't marked and the seller asks "what do you want to pay for it". They usually have some price in their minds and it's very easy to offend them with a low-ball offer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hate it when something isn't marked and the seller asks "what do you want to pay for it". They usually have some price in their minds and it's very easy to offend them with a low-ball offer.


Same here! I usually tell people who say that that I want to pay far less than they'll be happy with.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My approach is always have them set the price. If they try to get me to set the price. I have a standardized joking reply of "well if I get to set the price its going to be a dime for everything!!" Say it with a big smile. Normally you'll get a laugh and they'll come back with a price. And you can work from there.

In the super rare chance I can't get them to set a price (and its an item I really want). I offer 20% of what I know I can get out of it. Not what I think it might sell for. Say your looking at a vase. You know the maker...but not the pattern. The makers items can sell for up to 300 for a rare pattern. But common patterns sell for about 100. So offer 20...if they counter at double your offer $40 you still have wiggle room. If they get offended...because they wanted 100 oh well...you can't pay that...move on to another bargain. Your not there to make a friend so if you leave and they hate you...does it really matter? But normally even if they think your offer was a lowball...if you play it right and remind them they asked you to set the price...they won't get to offended...be personable even if it is an act...you can rant about them (and your treasure) when you get back on YSQ!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Setting a price (when buying) Reply with quote

What is my alternate name here?
Yep my usual offer is $1

Sometimes (on more expensive items) I say "would you be insulted if I offer $XX?" usually I get it at that price.

There have been a few times that they get insulted with my $1 offer and come back with something much higher and I remind them this is a yardsale/swapmeet and NOT Macys.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

judyc wrote:
I hate it when something isn't marked and the seller asks "what do you want to pay for it". They usually have some price in their minds and it's very easy to offend them with a low-ball offer.


I used to worry about this, now I just make my offer and if they get offended I say: "Well, you asked!" Very Happy

I get a little tired of Stupid Seller Tricks sometimes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eddieboyky wrote:
I get a little tired of Stupid Seller Tricks sometimes.

Tell us some. Very Happy

One more thing I just thought of.
I once made an offer (probably close to $1 Confused ) the seller didn't like it so much he grabed them out of my hands and walked away mumbling something in russian.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Keet and CyberDan - Get them to give you the price and be polite and sincere. Put yourself in the subservient position when haggling with the seller - reminding them that they have the power to grant your request as opposed to sounding like you're doing them the favor by buying it - and you're much likely to get the lower price.

For example, if the seller quotes me $10 on an item, I will say, "Would you be willing to go $5?" as opposed to "I'll give you five", which sounds a bit arrogant to the seller.

Other favorite phrases:

"I really like this, but would you be willing to help me on the price?"
"Can you go any lower than $XX?"
"Would you be willing to take $XX?"
"Would be be willing to give me a lower price on the books if I bought a bunch?"
"I like the toys. Do you have a price for the whole box?"

And I like Cyberdan's phrase, "would you be insulted if I offered you $XX?"

If the seller says, "I really can't go lower than $20" and that's still too high for you, say "I understand. Thanks for considering it though". Look like it's really hurting you to leave it behind, but walk away. They'll often call you back if you're polite and drop the price a little further.

I love haggling. My mom taught me how to do it when I was a little kid. If done right, no one should get offended.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earlybird Esq wrote:
Agree with Keet and CyberDan - Get them to give you the price and be polite and sincere. Put yourself in the subservient position when haggling with the seller - reminding them that they have the power to grant your request as opposed to sounding like you're doing them the favor by buying it - and you're much likely to get the lower price.

For example, if the seller quotes me $10 on an item, I will say, "Would you be willing to go $5?" as opposed to "I'll give you five", which sounds a bit arrogant to the seller.

Other favorite phrases:

"I really like this, but would you be willing to help me on the price?"
"Can you go any lower than $XX?"
"Would you be willing to take $XX?"
"Would be be willing to give me a lower price on the books if I bought a bunch?"
"I like the toys. Do you have a price for the whole box?"

And I like Cyberdan's phrase, "would you be insulted if I offered you $XX?"

If the seller says, "I really can't go lower than $20" and that's still too high for you, say "I understand. Thanks for considering it though". Look like it's really hurting you to leave it behind, but walk away. They'll often call you back if you're polite and drop the price a little further.

I love haggling. My mom taught me how to do it when I was a little kid. If done right, no one should get offended.


Excellent, excellent negotiation points, Earlybird! I think I've used some variation on some of those, but will try and remember them because I'm sure they will come in handy.

And, I agree with OldKeet; you're not at a yard sale to make a friend (usually), so if you don't agree on a price, then move on.

And, I'll have to remember to use Cyberdan's line "Would you be insulted if I offered this $XXX?" When I've been in this situation, I've usually just said I was thinking less, and then they want to know how less, and if I do tell them how really much less I was thinking, it can be a little uneasy. Cyberdan's line puts the ball in the seller's court, and often I would think makes them think, nah, I can't ADMIT that I'm insulted!

I also will offer two phrases:
I usually ask, "What are you asking for this?" instead of "How much is this?". It should be a clue to the seller that I've opened the door for negotiation, and also I think most sellers will generally like the idea that you think they're polite - that you acknowledge that they "ask" for a certain price. Maybe it's a subtle, fine line, but I think it never hurts.

Also, almost always when I'm looking at a piece of antique furniture, I'll ask the seller, "What can you tell me about this?" (which can work for a lot of other items too). Very quickly I'll know if they know what it is, and if they know what it's worth. Most of the time the sellers will tell you the history of the piece as they know it, and quite often point out the flaws (which may not always be obvious) - which can then be a negotiating point perhaps.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good discussion!

I went to an American Pickers type sale last weekend. The ad said "Estate Sale-explore the buildings!"

While I didn't find a lot, it was fun...I felt like Mike Wolfe with my flashlight looking in nooks and crannies...lol...

At the end there was a box of...no clue what. Looked like cartridges for a printer, and a roll of paper. The seller had no clue, either, so we sorta started bargaining. I asked how much and he said $1 a roll. I kind of backed off at that time, explaining that $1 a roll was too much, especially not knowing what it was or what for. He countered with 25c a roll...and I countered with $5 for that and my other 'treasures'.

SOLD!

Turns out they're for a graphics arts printer, everything in the box would retail for about $1000...tried CL first, looks like I'll be going with ebay.

OH...and I ended up with a deck of vintage Elvgren Pinup cards, a Cadillac Hub (Keet I need your advice on this one), a cool chippy pan, a wooden hanger from the Drake Hotel in Chicago, and a car license holder from a VW dealer.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great tips Earlybird. I think the main thing to remember is to be polite to the seller. After all, you are hoping to take home that treasure they're selling!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PocketChange wrote:
.....ask the seller, "What can you tell me about this?"

Thanks, I will remember that. It might tell me if they even know what it is or the potential value.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PocketChange wrote:
Also, almost always when I'm looking at a piece of antique furniture, I'll ask the seller, "What can you tell me about this?" (which can work for a lot of other items too). Very quickly I'll know if they know what it is, and if they know what it's worth. Most of the time the sellers will tell you the history of the piece as they know it, and quite often point out the flaws (which may not always be obvious) - which can then be a negotiating point perhaps.


I like that...I will have to work that one in. I also forgot to add....act somewhat stupid. It comes easy for me. When when your looking at something and must offer. Sigh...tell them you don't know anything about it...but you think it would look good sitting (inset spot). Say you really don't know what to offer. Does $10 sound fair? If they counter at 100 fall back to...yeah it is nice...I just can't afford that right now. I thank you for letting me look at it (and shake hands). They might ask if can afford 40 or so (then you can work your magic). If not you move on...

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a Cadillac Hub (Keet I need your advice on this one)


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all of the great ideas, everyone! I have been mostly thrift store shopping lately rather than yardsale shopping, and they have a no haggling polciy there. Mr. Green But I'll keep these thoughts in mind next time I go to a yardsale.

Judy, I read a much longer post by Phil, too, on how he asks for a good price - I guess he decided he didn't want to share his secrets. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...I didn't want to hog the discussion..

Here's one, an oldie?..

1. The 65%. Sellers are comfortable with a $6.50 offer on items listed for $10, $12 on 20, etc..

2. If I know the going YS price, just hold the item up and state that number (with honest confidence). Successful 90% of time.

Holla back!
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